(Airdate: September 10, 2025) Join Nan Evans as she talks with Lynda Mapes, longtime environmental reporter for The Seattle Times, about how culture, economics and science have fundamentally changed how we use the timber resources and perceive our relationship with forests. Much of the conversation is driven by Mapes’ most recent book, The Trees are Speaking: Dispaches from the Salmon Forest. This is Part 2 of a two-part conversation.